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wellbeing of officers, going through the investigative process, making sure we close all the loopholes, make sure there's nothing else out there that we haven't uncovered. so at some point soon we'll be in that conversation. right now, it's not the right time. thank you all so much. we'll update you as soon as we know more information. thank you. >> hello, i'm melissa harris-perry, you have been listening to dallas police chief, david o. brown talking about the ambush overnight. s.w.a.t. officers are look at the vehicle right now. s.w.a.t. snipers shot the suspect through the windshield. the robot is being used to determine whether the suspect is alive or dead. there are concerns about explosives in the vehicle. all of this started after midnight when one or more
suspects in the black van struck the police squad car and opened fire on officers. that crash and shootout happened outside police headquarters in dallas texas. the officers then chased the van into the town of hutchins where there was another shoot outin a parking lot. overnight it was said that no officers were injured but bags had been found with pipebombs. joining me now is nbc news correspondent charles hadlock. what do we know about the man inside the van? >> we know he might be dead. they -- he was shot by dallas police sharp shooters perhaps with a .50 caliber weapon something strong enough to penetrate the armored steel and heavy bulletproof glass that surrounded the van. they still don't have a positive i.d. on who the man is. he did call 911 and identified
himself, if it is that man, they say he has three prior family violence incidents on his record. he has a case of mental history apparently. he choked his mother choked his uncle, lost custody of a child. he was very angry about that. he mentioned that to police officers today and said i'm going to blow you up because you think i'm a terrorist and you took my child. paraphrase what was said that. police were surprised by this at midnight. the van pulled up and began shooting through the building. the police chief said a receptionist stepped away from the front lobby. if that person had been there, they would have been shot where they were sitting. other police officers were shot in their cars. they were not wounded, but the cars were shot up. the police chased this vehicle down to wilmer-hutchins.
interstate 45 is closed as police continue to find out what is in that van what they're going to do now, the police chief said they're going to send robotics robot apparatus into that area up to the van, to see what's inside. then they must begin the delicate cast of exploding part of the truck to gain access and initiate other explosions. the man said that his van was filled with c4 explosives. they have no reason to doubt him because back here at police headquarters, in a bag, they found a pipebomb. as the robot approached it and picked it up it exploded on site. this was an attack on the dallas police headquarters they're taking it very seriously. this crime scene is going to be going on all day today as they round up all the shell casings, all the other evidence they have to collect not only here at the police station but at that restaurant parking lot 10 to 20
miles from here. >> clearly an ongoing situation. thank you to nbc's charles hadlock in dallas texas. everyone should stay with msnbc throughout the day. we will bring you any new developments in that breaking news story. turning to another story unfolding now. the ongoing manhunt for two escaped convicts. convicted murders, richard matt and david sweat escaped from a new york maximum security prison eight days ago. joyce mitchell is now accused of aiding the fugitives by providing contra band. she was arraigned last night and pled not guilty. despite 800 officers aiding in the search matt and sweat remain at large. joining me from new york is nbc correspondent adam reeves. what more can you tell us about joyce mitchell and this ongoing search?
>> very serious charges, promoting prison contraband. on may 1st five weeks before the escape. she snuck into the jail hacksaw blades chisels, a punch and a screwdriver bit. officials said she thought it was love. she had some kind of romantic relation matt and maybe sweat as well. that's why she agreed to participate in the escape plan. even agreeing to be the getaway driver before she got cold feet. she faces seven years in jail. she has been suspended from her job at the prison. at the same time the search continues. we're in our second week. they got this perimeter of five miles, they're tightening the perimeter. they have 800 searchers, they have choppers in the air. they have dogs on the ground. they believe they're going in the right direction. they believe these guys may be together. they believe they're cold and tired, wet and hungry. that makes them more desperate and even more dangerous. melissa? >> thank you to adam reese in
morrisonville, new york. we'll check in with you later in our program for updates. also this morning, democratic presidential candidate and former secretary of state hillary clinton will hold her first big campaign rally. we it will take place on roosevelt island in manhattan. on the ground on roosevelt island is nbc news chief foreign correspondent, andrea mitchell. i'm sorry, we don't? we don't have andrea mitchell with us right now. we will be coming back over multiple times during this day to check in on hillary clinton who will be giving her first major campaign speech at that rally on roosevelt island. let me turn to yet another
story. on thursday cleveland municipal court judge found probable cause in order to charge two cleveland officers in the shooting death of 12-year-old tamir rice. the judge found probable cause to accuse timothy lowman the officer who fired the shot that killed tamir of murder reckless homicide and derekliction of duty. for his partner there was probable homicide and dereliction of duty charges. these are just opinions at this point, purely advisory. they have not resulted in any actual charges. they were rendered two days after a group of activists, called the cleveland eight, submitted an affidavit to arrest lowman and his partner.
they started a legal process against the parties they seek to accuse. how did the eight cleveland activists know enough about tamir's shooting to file the affidavit? from the viral surveillance footage of the officer shooting tamir in the park. they argued and the judge referenced the video in the affidavit. he said the video is hard to watch, after watching it several times, the court is thunderstruck about how quickly this event turned deadly. the advisory opinion does not supersede the decisions of prosecutors. the prosecutor has been handling the case and said in a statement on thursday that this case as with all other fatal uses of deadly force cases involving law enforcement will go to the grand jury. joining me now is president and ceo of the na aacp, cornell
williams brooks. obviously this is just an advisory opinion. but it was one that was met with many of us who have been watching this story closely as a potential turn as what we may see happen in cleveland. >> it's an encouraging turn. this judge, by this finding of probable cause, even though it's advisory with respect to the first officer, five charges, second officer, two charges has essentially made the case of why. the prosecutor is left with the question of why not? why not have the grand jury bring forward charges and have the officers arrested. it's a significant development. where we have a local naacp local redress chair working with the group of activists and other lawyers to bring -- to use this law not widely known, though it has been used over the course of the last several years as a tool of accountability.
this is important. it's an important step, particularly in a case on this anniversary, following the anniversary of tamir rice losing his life. >> it also suggests one of the things we've been seeing within the black lives matter movement more broadly and nationally is an attempt to think about new ways to press for accountability. i'm wondering if this looks at all like a model to you -- not that we have charges yet, not that many folks believe justice has been served but if this is a new model for thinking about accountability. >> it is an important model. it empowers citizens to come forward and look for ways to hold their police departments accountable. it takes place in the context of a broader effort to hold police departments accountable. so where the naacp, with so many others worked hard to bring about this consent decree in cleveland, which is a model, it is broad, it is comprehensive, it includes features not
included in consent decrees elsewhere. that's incredibly important. also the racial profiling law which was passed in cleveland just this week not the most robust law in the country, but it does provide and mandate that statistics be kept in terms of how people are treated. why is that important? think about ferguson. the naacp passed a similar law there which maine mandated statistics be kept. those statistics were used by the department of justice to establish a pattern of evidence. we have to think creatively. we have to use all the tools at our disposal in order to bring about a true change a fundamental change in policing in this country. and that's really not just a policing effort it's a grassroots effort. it's a legislative effort. it's a policy effort. we have to do what's necessary at the federal level in terms of passing the end racial profiling
act, but also do things on the ground through local branchs in our communities. this is a very significant moment and it speaks to the fact that people are determined to bring about fundamental change. there's a direct correlation between our creativity and ingenuity and our determination. >> cornell william brooks in washington, d.c. this morning. thank you. you're weighing in -- we've been talk about the dallas issue, life and death issue around police officers there, talking about the prison break, potential life and death issues associated with that and the case of tamir rice. that said there is a big story going on with the naacp. in the commercial break i will ask you about it so that we can get you on record to have a conversation about it in the next hour. >> sure. >> let me say on monday the naacp will announce a coalition called america's journey for justice which involves an 860-mile march from selma, bam
alabama to washington, d.c. this morning hillary clinton is holding her first big campaign rally. it will take place on roosevelt island in manhattan. her monument a back drop for franklin d. roosevelt's speech. on the ground in roosevelt island is andrea mitchell. sorry we didn't have you earlier. who and what other than secretary clinton, will be at today's event? what can we expect to hear? >> first of all, they're practicing the band now. you will hear a lot behind me as they rev up for this. the crowd is just beginning to be let in. what you'll hear from is about 30 minutes from hillary clinton. this is her first big public rally. she's been running for two months on her listening tour this is the first time she has a big public event.
you really only will hear from her. she will be introduced as well by a dreamer, but a young -- young person who is one of the people that they have been trying to help with their new immigration policy by expanding the dreamer rule. the executive order to include also the parents of dreamers. that's one of the things that hillary clinton that already announced during a nevada appearance at a largely hispanic high school this is a young dreamer who won the lottery really to be here today. then you will hear from hillary clinton. interestingly, this is the first time at the end of her speech that you will see bill clinton, the former president, of course. they have not campaigned together. he has not appeared at all alt her side. but he's not going to have a speaking role. there's always been concern when they appear together that he as a great public speaker, one of the greatest democratic surrogates there is can overshadow his wife. but you won't hear from him today. you will see him. they hope this is an event to
organize people. they will take names, e-mails, cell numbers, trying to get an organization started here in new york city. >> thank you to nbc's andrea mitchell. we'll follow up with you later in the program as we wait to see that rally kick off. up next the hard questions that need to be asked. it is still the -- i know we had a lot of news. we'll dig in now. p make beneful. i help make beneful. i help make beneful. after working here, there's no other food i'd feed my pets. each ingredient is tested by our own quality insurance people. i see all the quality data everything that i need to know that it's good for my dog. there's a standard. and then there's a purina standard. i make it and i feed my dog beneful. i feel proud because i know that i helped make that bag of dog food sitting on that shelf.
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its bars. kalif broad kalif broddard was one of them. he was arrested in 16 for stealing a backpack. the facility named the robert n. devoran center rndc and has troubling allegations of brutality that were exposed there last year when the u.s. attorney's office in manhattan found a deep seeded culture of violence is pervasive at the facilities in rikers. in a profile by the new yorker in 2014, kalif described the horrors he said he endured inside, the beatings he suffered in the jail were captured in two surveillance videos by rikers obtained by the new yorker. we will show some of that video now. warning, it is quite disturbing this was in 2012.
the video shows a guard arriving to escort kalif to the prison shower. kalif appears to speak to the guard who pushes him to the ground. in another video, kalif is shown in a violent altercation with several fellow inmates. the new yorker blurred the faces to protect the identities of the teens. kalif also spent time in solitary confinement. 23 hours a day. his first stint lasted two weeks. another stint lasted ten months. throughout his ordeal his case was delayed by the courts and kalif maintained his innocence rejecting several plea deal offers. by the time prosecutors dismissed the charges, he had been in prison for three years. nearly two of those in solitary confinement. he never stood trial.
kalif was released may 30 2013. his troubles were far from oval. he attempted suicide six times after his relief. he could not forget the horrors he saw inside the jail. he told the new yorker before i went to jail i didn't know about a lot of stuff. now that i'm aware, i'm paranoid. last saturday kalif committed suicide at his family's home in the bronx. he was 22 years old. the new york city department of corrections is looking into the incident. a spokesperson told us that. in december new york did away with solitary confinement for 16-year-olds and 17-year-olds and plans to end it for 18-year-olds to 21-year-olds by 2016. how is it possible a citizen of our country spends three years in jail without ever being found guilty of a crime, subjected to what at least some international bodies think of as torture, solitary confinement. >> the question is probably how
is it not possible. we have a chore of punulture of punishment and in new york and other state we have decided to treat 16-year-olds as adults. 78% of the people in this particular housing unit of rikers have not been found guilty of a crime, they are subjected to violence and a violent culture that exists on rikers. not just amongst the people doing time but amongst the correction officers. >> you said so many different things there, when we talk about young people being treated address adults don't we have a constitutional right to a speedy trial? is there anyone who thinks this three years without a trial constitutes speedy? >> it's unfortunate. what we have done with mandatory minimums, we transported power to prosecutors.
prosecutors are always looking for a conviction. one way to get a conviction is to have a person who you think is a witness sit on rikers island they call it bullpen therapy, give them bail high enough that they can't go home. you hold them there as long as possible until you get a conviction. >> uyou mentioned new york and north carolina those are two very different states. how do they wind up being beacons of this action? >> for me i ask myself how can we be in one of the most progressive, resource-rich cities in the united states and have this iltdsland where we incarcerate our children and read them this way. when i read this report from the feds -- as you know i served time on rikers 20 years ago. 20 years ago i served a year on rikers island. the conditions have not changed. imagine how many of our children
have been treated that way over the last 20 years. >> u menyou men mentiontioned the feds. is there something the department of justice should be doing? >> there's 210 children there now like kalif who could be moved tomorrow. we should get our mayor to take action and get those children off rikers. >> that's the purview of the mayor. >> he has to move them to institutions ss defined as jails, but they'll be safe. >> up next i want to talk about an investigative report about the women at rikers. out what now? oh, i don't know. the apocalypse? we're fine. i bundled renter's with my car insurance through progressive for just six bucks more a month. word. there's looters running wild out there. covered for theft. okay. that's a tidal wave of fire. covered for fire. what, what? all right. fine.
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there's only one facility on rikers for women, known as rosie. the legal aid society received complaints from 17 rosy inmates who said medications were discontinued for no apparent reason. in may two women who accused a rikers guard of repeated rapes sued him and the city because of a pervasive culture of rape and sexual abuse at the jail. joining my table, erica eichelberger. you call this a medical emergency, death and negligent at rikers island women's jail also robert gangey, and a
professor of journalism at nyu. i want to come to you, erica on this rape and sexual assault. in this case we're looking at women, but it's also a problem for men who are incarcerated and as well as trans inmates. talk to me about how big the problem is. >> as you mentioned, a class action lawsuit was just filed alleging systemic sexual abuse at the rosa m. singer center. it's totally pervasive. in 2011 and 2012 6% of all women at the center said they had been sexually assaulted. and it's just sort of -- sort of goes along with this culture of impunity at doc.
investigations -- doc won't release information on investigations of complaints of sexual assault. >> you used the language of the culture -- the pervasive culture. robert i'm always looking for structural explanations. it's possible that police departments and correctional officers are bad people this put them altogether and they all do terrible things. it's also possible that there's a set of structural realities that allow those bad folks to go unpunished and also create these culture cultures. i wonder if you can help us understand what maybe some of those structures and cultures are. >> you make a good point. any agency any institution that has huge amounts of power, like prison systems do and police forces do they have the power to arrest people confine people deprive them of liberty for extended periods of time. it's enormous power.
unless there's outside agencies or a political climate that watches them abuse is inevitable. we know this from the history of imprisonment in the united states and the world and the abuse of police departments in the united states and new york city. >> we know it from social psychology experiments going back to before -- >> exactly. >> some just students they become prisoners, immediately it turns to abuse, even though no one there is a c.o. or a prisoner. there are systems that can bring out good in people and bad in people. prisons are inherently designed to bring out bad in people. the remedy is simplistic but
it's true. there needs to be strong outside monitors whose sole job -- first, that they're independent of the government, and their sole job is to monitor and report the -- what goes own side the facilities. it also goes to insufficient health care. we know -- anybody who looks at prisons and jails in the united states knows that health care is virtually inadequate in the facility. there are some exceptions and that there are unnecessary deaths. >> as you talk about this idea of independent monitors clearly one of the roles that the press is meant to play what the new yorker played in giving us kalief's story, is to shine a light. but we also know that part of trying to get that is a sense of mattering, of stake. i wonder how we create that sense of stake within so many in the communities who feel like this doesn't have anything to do with them. >> i feel like most people most
families have some connection to the criminal justice system. what happens is there are very much class based divisions in how criminal justice interaction is played out. if you have access to good he'll representation that you're able to pay top dollar for, you can get what might be a felony reduced to a misdemeanor. if you have no representation, you can have a crime which should have never been prosecuted in the first place turn into essentially a death sentence. so what we have to do is also make people realized, people who say that wouldn't happen to my kid. well actually, it could have happened to your kid if your kid didn't have a good lawyer when his frat party turned into a melee and the police showed up but they know they're good kids and not bad kids. a lot of time in this country we have divisions based on 5:sets to legal representation. we have to have a class based discussion about who gets
funneled into the criminal justice system. if we only consider the pure numbers of who gets sentenced to what, i think people are allowed to have this illusion it's not me. >> stay with us. i want to go to a place of asking some questions about what the solutions to these problems may be. a quick update on the standoff in dallas texas, where a gunman is accused of opening fire on police. investigators are using a robot to examine the suspect's vehicle at this hour. s.w.a.t. snipers shot the suspect through the windshield. the robot is being used to determine whether the suspect is dead. police say the suspect gave them his name as james bolware, but that name has not been confirmed. we will continue to bring you information on msnbc. coming up we have much more on the naacp leader raising questions over racial identity and the presidential candidate, hillary clinton's, first big rally.
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. we're back and talking about issues of abuse, assault, the conditions at rikers. i want to come back to the kalief broward story. there is a bill that may have made a difference for him in new york. among the bills still pending in albany is a proposal to raise the state's age of criminal responsibility to 18. and at present, as you said in new york and north carolina, 16 to 17-year-olds are prosecuted as an adult what. what can move this bill through albany? >> bit of horse trading. the senate republicans are holding out for hybrid detention facilities in their communities that would house some of these kids. at best we would end up with incrementalism, which is unfortunate. the problem with rikers is rikers. the fact of the matter is we have a culture there we can't break. particularly or children. we need to move them
immediately. all in all we should shut the facility decentralize, have a shah rink the number of prison beds and hold officers accountable. >> we have a policy solution here, but i'm also not naive enough to think that a good policy solution is sufficient. there's politics here. i want to play a sound of rand paul talking about kalief's case. case. >> he died this weekend, he committed suicide. his name was kalief browder, he was a 16-year-old black teenager from the bronx. for goodness sakes r are we going let people be rained murdered pillaged in prison because they're convicted -- he wasn't even convicted. when i see people angry and upset. i'm not here to excuse violence in the cities. when i see people angry, i understand where some of the anger is coming from. >> that's a republican from kentucky saying this has gone
too far. i wonder if we are seeing the political needle move. >> it's encouraging that rand paul and some other republicans are taking on their criminal justice issues. i think we are encouraged overall by the political movement. i'm relatively an old man, 71 years old, lived in new york city my whole life. i have never seen issues of abusive policing be front and center in the political debate as it is now today. issues of mass incarceration much more part of the political debate. hillary clinton's first big speech was about mass incarceration and criminal justice and disproportionate numbers of people of color being locked up. still significant changes have not taken places. abusive discriminatory policing still takes place every day in new york city. the challenge to us as advocates, reporters, academics, to people at msnbc is to keep hitting these issues exposing these issues.
if you think about the old jim crow in place for 80 90 years, liberal progressive politicians tolerating it, fdr, jfk, lbj until the civil rights movement came. >> until the actual movement. erika, real quick, part of what's happening around black lives matter which is critical and so important, sometimes it can have a moment of obscuring the role of women and the experiences of women at the core of these same kinds of prison concerns. >> right. absolutely. because prison is designed you know around men, a lot of times women's concerns get ignored. so nationally that means, poor ob-gyn care, miscarriages that are not treated. women not getting care for drug addiction. and the thing is that they come in with their crimes are much less severe 84% are in for
nonviolent crimes. so they're almost punished more severely. >> and women are coming in themselves secondary or tertiary, having been victimized in other parts of their lives and experienceingeing more victimization here. all right. thank you. this morning we are continuing to keep an eye on roosevelt island in new york where the first big campaign rally for hillary clinton's presidential campaign is getting underway. we expect to hear from the candidate later this morning. we'll bring you that live. maybe she'll talk about prison reform. you've heard of a "win-win," right? what about a "win-win-win"? pick up the limited edition metallic droid turbo by motorola. water-repellent.
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but since the first movie came out, we learned more about dinosaurs, they were not covered with leathery reptilian skin but with feathers. joining me now, ken lakavara from drexel university. >> so all birds are dinosaurs? >> yes. imagine if you went back to your great, great grandmother, you wouldn't pick cousin bob and pick him out of the family. you can't kick birds out of dinosauria. >> you saw the movie the other day. >> i did. >> what did you think about the sequence of things? >> there are things they could have done better but it's a monster movie. it's a fun, summer movie. there are some things we learned in the last 20 years that were
not incorporated in the movie. >> what is new in dinosaur science these days. >> we know about how birds evolved. we know dinosaur first evolved feathers before flight evolved. they were probably for some other function like insulation. so a whole group of dine sarosaurs are feathered and not birds. like a velociraptor for instance. >> so, the whole thing about the feathers was highly upsetting to my eagle scout husband who, as a young boy, loved dinosaurs, saw them as these great fighting reptile, something about the fancy feather is distressing. is there something big, giant, enormous that we learned about dinosaurs that could restore the boyhood? >> they may look fancy but they can still kill you. >> fancy killers. >> t-rex probably had some fuzz
on its body maybe some feathers but i wouldn't mess with a t-rex. >> what do we have here? >> we have fossils from mantua new jersey. >> i'm sorry, new jersey? >> new jersey is the birthplace of dinosaur palentology. so we have here this is a bone from a mosasaur. think of a komoto dragon with limbs, a ten-foot jaw, then a second set of teeth at the top of its throat that points backwards, these, to keep you from swimming back out. >> these are teeth. >> these are teeth. that only appear on the top of the back of their mouth. they point backwards. >> this guy is the size of a school bus? >> the size of a bus, yeah. super scary. >> and is this a relatively new finding?
>> well mosasaurs have been around for millions of years, paleontologists have known about them for hundreds of years. this is something we found last summer. >> what is the most important thing we need to know about dinosaurs that helps us to understand life on our planet today? >> we should know they were long-lived. there's not just dinosaurs. they turned over. they adapted to their environments. they were kozcosmopolitan so they were on every continent, in every niche on the land. you know if we want to understand how the world is changing in the future if we want to understand climate change, none of us have access to the future you have to look at the past. we can look at the past land landscapes and how they changed. that gives us an idea of what we're headed into in the future. honestly, it's not great news. >> i could have taken a
velociraptor, if you do see a dinosaur, we should not try to dinosaur whisper them. >> i would not try the chris pratt thing. that will get you killed. >> probably a bad strategy. >> thank you, ken. appreciate you coming and bringing us actual dinosaur fossils. we have a lot to get to this morning, hillary clinton's campaign kickoff rally is underway right now on roosevelt island. when we come back the story that has all of social media asking, does it matter if you're black or white? more at top of the hour. americans drink 48 billion bottles of water every year. that's enough
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suspect through the windshield of his fan and the robot is being used to determine whether the suspect is dead this started after midnight when one or more of the suspects inside a black van struck a police squad car and opened fire on officers. that crash and shootout happened outside the police department headquarters in dallas texas. the officers chased the van into the town of hutchins where there was anothermore gunfire. joining me now from outside police headquarters in dallas nbc news correspondent, charles hadlock. what do we know now that we didn't know in the last hour about that man inside the van. >> we believe he may be dead. police sharp shooters using a .50 caliber rifle shot into the engine block to disable the vehicle, when negotiations apparently stalled, fearing for their lives and the lives of others around that armored van,
police shot through the windshield, perhaps killing the man. they don't know for sure. what they're sdrog now is send in a robot to look inside the van and perhaps use explosives to carefully open up the vehicle. the man claimed to have c4 explosives inside that armored van. let me back up and start where this began about midnight tonight -- last night. right down the street here. south lamar boulevard, south of downtown, dallas police headquarters. a man driving a heavily armed black van began shooting up the lobby and shooting at officers on the campus shooting at officers this their cars. he then rammed several police cars. police could do nothing to stop him because he was driving this armored van. the van took off. police chased him down to hutchenhutch hutchins, they surrounded him, shot out the engine block and made the decision to shoot the man in the driver's seat of the vehicle. they're determining now who he
is, and what he was up to. melissa? >> charles hadlock in dallas texas, thank you. stay with msnbc throughout the day for any new developments in this story. we're waiting to hear from democratic presidential candidate and former secretary of state hillary clinton at her first major campaign rally. clinton's back drop is a memorial dedicated to roosevelt's for freedom speech in 1941 in which he described the freedoms of speech and religion and the freedoms from fear and want. on the island this morning is andrea mitchell. what kind of details do you have on the speech that secretary clinton suspected to give today? >> hi melissa. she will be personal. she will speak about her mother the late dorothy rodham. the influence her mother had on
her. they're trying to fill in personal details that have been available and well known from her book. but even though she's the best known woman politician in america and one of the best known people globally they believe that people don't understand where she came from. obviously there's another strategy here because they have tried to offset the talk about the cash, the multimillion dollar deals, the lucrative speeches that said they think that it's important for her to explain why she wants to run for president. this is her first public rally. she's been on the road for two months, so far listening, meeting with small groups but never really explaining why she believes she should be in the white house. this is her first big public opportunity. the crowd is here. this is an interesting venue, because, as you pointed out, it does have the roosevelt sort of
aura, fdr and eleanor roosevelt who was always such an icon as a former activist. but the most important woman she will be talking about today is her own mother. melissa. >> thank you to nbc's andrea mitchell. we will follow up with you later in our program. now, i want to switch gears a bit. this week a local news reporter in spokane, washington interviewed rachel dolezal, president of the local naacp chapter about hate mail she said was sent to the organization's post office box. near the end of the interview, the reporter presented her with a photo of an african-american man who is identified on facebook as dolezal's father. he asked a simple four-word question that left dolezal stumped. >> are you african-american?
>> the interview came abruptly to an end shortly after that pause. >> i don't understand the question of -- i did tell you that y that's my dad. he was unable to come in january. >> are your parents -- are they white? >> but what went unsaid during that very long pause has turned rachel dolezal's life and story into a topic of national attention. her name into a hashtag at the center of firestorm of social media outrage and debate about racial identity. if you look at how she has chosen to live her life she has a response to the question. if i described her to you, without you having met her, you might think rachel dolezal sounds like the kind of woman who exemplifies so many reasons that black girls rock.
not just membership but her leadership in the naacp, her reputation one of the inland northwest's most propminent civil rights activists, work she has passionately pursued. there is her professorship at eastern washington university. the fierce twist-out selfie she posted to selfie declaring her transition to natural hair when she turned 36. her facebook advice about where to sit during "12 years a a slave." the two african-american sons that she often mentions in her interviews and writing. there is her application to spokane's office of the police ombudsman commission where she identifies herself as white, american indian also black. then there's this -- ruth ann
and larry doselezal who claimed rachel as their estranged daughter with whom they have not had contact with in years. the dolezal's sprentpresented the "washington post" with what they say is her birth certificate. they say we are definitely her parents, we are of caucasian and, czech and a few other things. according to what ruth ann dolezal told the reporter rachel disguised herself in 2006 after her family adopted four african-american children. within hours, dolezal's racial identity became the story that launched a thousand memes. most responses were a mix of judgment anger, confusion and
hill hilarity. and the got you moment. here is a person who is living her life as though she is black, but after seeing and hearing from her biological parents, we know she really is white. why would a white woman be president of the naacp? there's nothing surprising about a white person being president of the naacp. white leadership is as old as the organization as itself going back as far as the naacp's founding by writers, educators, suffrage movement leaders and past leaders like the first president, morefield story, joel spinguard and his brother arthur who followed him in position. but all those people operated in the world as white allies. their sense of self remained planted in whiteness. dolezal is different. for year she's has presented herself not as a white alley in the work of racial justice but
as a black person who felt injustice. for many this claim is patently inherently and permanently false. but let's pause for just a moment. let's bracket for just a second rachel dolezal's personal story what may be interesting than her story is our national reaction to it. many discussions of dolezal has been fueled by suspicions of her motivation what is she trying to gain. this is rooted in appropriation that confers material or reputational benefits for the white person at being adept at performance of black culture while not benefiting the communities where the culture itself was born. other responses have asserted an unyielding biological determination. if your parents are white, you're white. you can never be black.
i think this response ignores decades of assertion that race is fuzzy at boundaries. then there's a desire to make specific claims that blackness is tied to histories and experiences unavailable to dolezal or other people born white. these experiences positive and negative create a black social cultural and familial world that is distinct and some claim largely unknowable by someone like her. the confusion about identity the fear of reappropriation, the assertion of biological blackness and the insistence of racial cultural distinctiveness, each has been woven into how we as a nation received and understood dolezal's story and they tell us as much about ourselves as they do about her. now, this point, there is still so much we do not know about the choices that dolezal made about her identity.
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i would say if you know if i was asked, i would definitely say, yes i do consider myself to be black. >> joining me now is allison hobbs, author of "chosen exile: a history of racial passing in american life." there's nobody i want to talk to more than you, allison. >> thank you so much for having me. >> part let me read back to you a piece from your own text which i have found useful in trying to think through this. you write the constructed nature of race becomes evident when individuals change their racial identity by changing location clothing, speech and life story. thus seemingly making themselves white. these individuals cast light on the historically contingent and procedural natd chore of race making and demonstrate the concept of race can be specious but also utterly real. that's what i feel like i'm watching happening here.
people are like she's a liar i'm like she's passing. passing always creates lying. >> she follows a familiar narrative, she has to move away from her family separate away from her family so she can have the anonymity or recreate her identity away from her parents. the thing that's interesting is that in this case her parents actually outed her, whereas in most cases of racial passing, it's often the parents who are trying to protect their child and who are very concerned about what may happen to their child once they are passing. sometimes it's the parents who have to actually encourage the child to pass and the iconic image of that heartbroken mother who has to watch as her child walks down the street and can't acknowledge her -- >> the imitation of life story. >> exactly. >> the other piece of it then is that those stories of passing were about passing into a higher status identity. it does seem to me what's
baffling about this story for so many people is passing into what is perceived as a lower status identity, at least an identity that we know carries more disprivileges with it. >> i think what makes this story so difficult to understand and make sense of is that rachel doesn't fit into any of the kind of familiar frameworks that we're used to think being race with. number one, as you mentioned before, she's not really using blackness to sort of appropriate a kind of street cred or make any claims about a particular kind of racial knowledge or to gain fame or fortune through associating herself with black music or other forms of black culture. on the other hand she's also not necessarily -- i think there's some confusion in that many people would wonder well, what is she trying to gain? what is she after?
that's where i've been really interested in some of the responses. some people have gone as far as to say that she must be mentally ill. she must be disturbed. there's something actually psychologically wrong with someone who would choose to give up white privilege in order to live as a black woman. >> mm-hmm. that -- let me -- let me pause there. i want to ask this question as clearly as i can. is it possible that maybe not rachel -- again, i don't know what her whole story is. we will see more of that. >> we don't know. >> is it possible that she might actually be black? the best way that i know thousand describe this i want to be very careful here. because i don't want to say it's equivalent to the transgender experience. but there's a useful language in trans assist which is to say some of us are born transjechbd
transgendered, but is there a different category of blackness that is about the achievement of blackness despite one's parentage? >> that's absolutely possible. why not? i think one thing she said that i found so fascinating, she said her identity is multi layered, and that her identity is very complicated. she didn't expect for people to understand it easily. and i think what she's eluding to is this sort of perhaps -- again, we don't know that much about the story. we need to hear more from her, more of her personal story. but there certainly is a chance that -- that she identifies as a black woman, and that that there could be authenticity to that. >> back in 2013 for the atlantic, it was written race clearly has a biological element because we have awarded it one.
race is no more dependent on skin color today than it was on frankishness in emerson's day. over history, race has taken on geography, language and vague impressions as its basis. all of the extraordinary people you write about in your text were any of them actually white? let's say -- i think about the passing moment what happens when somebody says no i know you're really black. i don't know maybe they are. maybe they achieved whiteness. maybe that's what happens when race is socially constructed, they reconstruct it. >> right. it's certainly possible. these are questions that unfortunately, in a very frustrating way, historians can't answer. we don't know -- it's very possible given the extensive nature of racial mixture in our country, it's very possible that someone who believes themselves to be white could have black ancestry. someone who believes themselves
to be black could have white ann ancestory. the thing i look at is why we think she's so deceptive, fraud leapt and why there's such outrage, such comedy about this as well. >> watching our feelings and reactions to it feels it tells me more about all of us and about our national anxiety around it. as we go out, we did have naacp president william cornell brooks. i will say thank you to allyson hobbs, both for the extraordinary book "chosen exile." and as we go out, i want to listen. this is also an naacp question. i want to listen to the president as we go out. when we come back we'll have the latest on the manhunt for two escaped convicts. >> the candor around her racial
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searching for two escapes. richard matt and david sweat escaped from the clinton correctional facility after cutting through the walls of their cell. more than 800 law enforcement officers are involved in the manhunt along with search dogs and helicopters. last night, a prison employee, joyce mitchell, who works in the prison's tailor shop was arrested on charges of bringing the convicts contraband. joining me now from morrisonville, new york is adam reese. what is the latest on mitchell's status now and on the ongoing manhunt? >> good morning. she's facing serious charges promoting prison contraband and criminal facilitation. she was attempting to sneak in materials to help them with their escape that include hacksaw blades chisels, a punch, a skew driver bit.
officials say she thought it was love, there was some relationship between her and richard matt and maybe even david sweat, she would even be the getaway driver before she got cold feet and decided not to be involved and not to do that. she faces seven years in jail. she remains in jail this morning. she has been suspended from her job at the jail. the search does continue. officials don't believe these men have left the area. they have got the perimeter set up. a five-mile perimeter. they're tightening that perimeter. they have choppers on the air and dogs on the ground. they believe these men are cold wet, tired and hungry. they're desperate. and being desperate makes them more dangerous. joining me now is john cuff, retired chief of the fugitive
gigs division for the u.s. marshall service for the northeast region. explain how two individuals, desperate, wet, hungry expecting a car they don't have have managed to elude officers for so long. >> it's not the first time something like this happened. it was a well-planned escape. these two inmates formed a symbiotic relationship with a common goal. so they use or manipulate people that they see a weakness on. which apparently was this staffer. they they -- however, the plan did not plan out all the way when the getaway car didn't show up. that put them into a tailspin. they had to improvichltz these guy guys are not outdoorsmen or survivalists. this couple that returned at 12:30 in the morning last -- the morning after the escape but before it was reported they did not take any action to
neutralize those people to hold them at bay for not making 911 calls. at that point they were confident that the getaway car was nearby. however, the people never called 911, so it's no reflection on them they didn't know about the escape, when they saw the getaway car was not there, they had to kick in to this other mode. now, they do not know the area presumably it's one of the largest mountain areas in the united states. it's a difficult search pattern. the timeliness to this. coming into one week on this i wouldn't worry much about that. there's nothing to suggest they got out of the area. but the public needs to remain vigilant. there always is the possibility of a porous perimeter where they could have gotten out of the area. we just hope for the best. if they did get out of the area chances are they will resort to what they know best criminal behavior. possibly stealing a car, holding up an establishment or whatever it might be to get some money.
right now we're looking at it like it's -- they are in the area. there's nothing to suggest otherwise. as far as them splitting up the symbiotic relationship would last until they achieved their goal. they didn't get their goal. they're only halfway there. >> we expect they are still together. >> that's correct. >> thank you. it helps to think through what the process of something like this is. up next the searing new documentary on jordan davis, a teen killed at a gas station. the director of "3 1/2 minutes ten bullets" joins me next.
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barrel of a gun coming out of the vehicle that davis was in. police never found any such weapon. fearing for his life dunn says he proceeded to fire ten shots into the vehicle, three into davis' body another three into the suv as it sped away. "3 1/2 minutes, 10 bullets" and jordan davis was dead. dunn was sentenced to life in prison without parole. even with nominal justice service, jordan's parent also have to grapple with their son's tragic fate for the rest of their lives. that brutal question, what happened to jordan davis when he met michael dunn is the focus of the new documentary, "3 1/2 minutes, 10 bullets." >> the confrontation began over loud music. >> was there music playing in the car? >> yes. >> what type of music? >> rap. >> did the defendant say anything about the music? >> i hate that thug music. >> maybe they didn't have a gun,
but he thought they had a gun. >> they think it's a gun when it's in the hands of a young african-american. >> it was the 21st century lynching. >> was it all right to kill my son? >> what happened to jordan? >> joining me now is activist and director of "3 1/2 minutes, 10 bullets," marc silver. what happened to jordan? >> what a good question. we looked at this 3 1/2 minutes, i guess, at two different levels. what happened to jordan in a pragmatic, inside the courtroom kind of way. and then i think we were able to undo several layers and asked what happened to jordan and why did something like that happen to jordan. on the surface, there was an argument about loud music. someone felt their life was threatened and they shot in self-defense. to me what really happened what there was to hone in on why a white man felt fear when looking
at a car full of black teens. >> and, in fact part of what seems to unravel that first story about what happened is testimony by rhonda brower who is the girlfriend of michael dunn but who casts some light on the possibility that this narrative about being in fear of his life is not quite what we expected. i want to play one more piece from the film. this is jordan davis' mother talking about rhonda's testimony. >> she was the key witness that could testify against him. and she did. i don't know if she has any children. i don't know if she's a mother. but i was praying if she were something in her conscious, something in her heart, something somewhere would kick in and she would be convinced to
tell the truth. >> they are extraordinary parents of their child. not together in romantic relationship, but somehow age to continue to parent their child even after his passing. >> that's right. they got divorced when jordan was three years old. ron, jordan's father, was living in jacksonville. lucy went to live in atlanta. on the day jordan was killed ron had to call her on thanksgiving, tell his ex-wife, the mother of his son, that their son was shot and it was on his watch. there is a moment in the film where he describes having to make that phone call and being so confused that his son was in a safe place, with good kids and there was no reason for this to have actually happened. and to have that responsibility
that he was looking after their son, as a divorced parent. following that day for the last you know, two and a half years, they had to come together. like you said i think there's a sense that they're still, in a way, parenting jordan even though he's died. >> i want to listen a little bit to ron who joined the club that no one wants to join. let's take a listen. >> me and jordan had talked about the trayvon martin case. i remember jordan put a hoodie on, he has a brown hoodie he said we kind of look alike, dad. trayvon martin's father text me a couple days after it happened. i just want to welcome you to a club that none of us want to be in. >> trayvon martin jordan davis, we talked earlier about tamir rice killed within moments of police arriving on the scene. do black lives matter in 2015? >> i think this is really what
heart of the film is when this happened, many of these other cases had not happened it was just before the jordan zimmerman verdict. all these other cases happened. in the beginning when we approached the film i thought it was going to be a film about the perfect storm of racial profiling, access to the gun, and the laws that give people confidence to use the gun. over time really what that 3 1/2 minutes came to represent in a larger way was the 1 1/2 seconds it took to shoot tamir rice the four hours that michael brown lay on the ground. and even though i could understand some media pundits would like to speak about all of these things in a disconnected way, actively try and disconnect these things for me and for us as a team making the film even though we don't need to talk about all of these other cases in this particular fillal, when you watch the film you understand there's deep
connections between these cases. >> those 3 1/2 minutes, those 4 hours, those 1 1/2 seconds, they are deeply connected. thank you. thank you to marc silver. up next hillary clinton's appearance at her first major campaign rally is set to begin in moments from now. we'll bring it to you live. move it. you're killing me. you know what, dad? i'm good. (dad) it may be quite a while before he's ready, but our subaru legacy will be waiting for him. (vo) the longest-lasting midsize sedan in its class. the twenty-fifteen subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. they make little hearts happy and big hearts happy too because as part of a heart healthy diet, those delicious oats in cheerios can help naturally lower cholesterol. how can something so little... help you do something so big.
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democratic presidential candidate and former secretary of state will be taking the stage any minute on roosevelt island on manhattan where hillary clinton is due to give her first major speak of the 2016. live from roosevelt island is national correspondent joy reid. joy, let me come to you first, first, what is happening there? is it energetic? how does it feel there?
>> absolutely melissa good morning. so, there is a very large crowd. the sun is now out. we had some cloud cover earlier. people are happy about that. interesting, just looking at the crowd behind me. a pretty young crowd. my producer described it as the young millennial hipster crowd. it's the age campaign that the clinton campaign would like to see. not a tremendous amount of ethnic diversity. but they got the numbers they were look for. now they're playing top 40 music to keep everybody excited and happy. >> have you had an opportunity to hear from folks in the crowd there at all, joy, about what they're hoping to hear from the presidential candidate, this far and away front-runner? >> they have been successful in keeping us in the pen. we are not able to get that choice. interestingly enough a lot of the people i tried to talk to over the barrier, not really
trying to talk to the media that's an interesting development. people were more open coming in. in general, if you look at the signage, the issues, it seems to be the enthusiasm to have a woman running for president. it's difficult to know if there are specific issues that are attracting them. the campaign 24 hours ago released a video where they shaped the narrative they would like to see which is essentially hillary down through the years, all the times she fought for regular people the times she fought for women. it opens with her and an african-american community. the crowd here seems to be glad to be here and glad it's not raining. >> one last quick question for you. one of the big issues is whether or not hillary clinton given she has been with us on the public stage for so many years, whether or not she can reintroduce herself. if there is something new, whether it's the crowd gathering
at roosevelt island or voters making choices in the early primaries, something new they can learn. is there something here that hillary clinton will say that we have not heard before? >> yeah absolutely. it's interesting that you say that. i was speaking with a long-time friend of hillary clinton. they talked about that article and about her mother bringing out stories that maybe people in the media have heard before but that the general public has not. what you will hear is a lot more focus this time around on hillary clinton's upbringing her family the personal hillary. the first time she ran, it was all about establishing herself to be commander in chief. hillary the tough person. hillary prepared on day one to be president. this time around they will go buy grafio biographical. where they learned about the gulfs between the haves and the have-nots. you will hear a lot about her,
about her mother about the female relationships she's had throughout the years. that and issues regarding children. they addressed in that video her failure to pass health care reform but pivoted to the c.h.i.p. initiative and they are hitting home on issues of women and children. that's what you will hear. >> thank you. don't go away. we'll be popping back in with you. i want to come out here for a moment. you can hear the music, you can hear the rally, young people are there. they are there to hear hillary clinton. as a republican do you look at that and think, oh my this is about to be a fight -- oh. i'm sorry, it sounds like apparently bill clinton, former president of the united states is walking up to the mike. let's -- >> of course. >> i know. he knew i was asking you the question. here comes bill clinton. we had hrdeard earlier from andrea mitchell that we were not expecting to hear bill clinton speak today. he's prepared to be there, to support hillary clinton. we see chelsea clinton there as
well. but that we were not expecting to actually hear from him. it will be interesting to see whether or not we actually hear from bill clinton today. obviously you see that the crowds are still enthusiastic about the former president of the united states. he is undoubtedly a part of this big draw as well. when you start seeing the family you know you're likely to see the candidate soon. folks are now beginning to take a look it looks like there she is here comes hillary clinton. she's going to be making her entrance now. again, she has had public speeches before this point. this is truly her first major public rally. an opportunity for her to speak not only directly to the people through the lens of the camera but in this case an opportunity to speak directly to people gathered there at roosevelt island in manhattan with an opportunity to hear from hillary clinton. reintroducing herself to the american people.
apparently focusing closely on her biography. we heard a lot today about the likelihood she is going to talk about her own mother. she's going to talk about other women in her life in her professional she worked very early in her career. evidence of a discourse that hillary clinton is going to move towards reminding us of her personal and professional and political accomplishments. this is a woman who has been on the national american stage for two decades now. most in america -- first meeting her as the first lady of the united states but now knowing her as a former senator from new york knowing her as the former secretary of state in the administration of our current president barack obama and now seeing her once again as a presidential candidate in her own right. of course, she had a hard-fought primary battle in 2008 with the man who is now president. we don't expect a primary battle
of that extent currently in the democratic party based just on current polling but you know that she is the front-runner for the democratic presidential nomination. hillary clinton who will begin her speech shortly. we did, in fact see her husband and former president of the united states, a two-term democratic president, one who continues to be a force in his own right but this day on roosevelt island is very much hillary clinton's day. her opportunity to move beyond the instagram posts, to move beyond the youtube videos, to move beyond even the straight policy speeches to a real public rally. an opportunity to see how a base group of voters might, in fact respond to her. again, this is hillary clinton on roosevelt island here in
manhattan, in new york city where she served as the senator from the state of new york immediately after being first lady. the first first lady to run for the u.s. senate in her own right really in many ways eclipsing that first identity. and now we will hear from hillary clinton. [ cheers and applause ] [ crowd chanting "hillary" ] >> thank you. thank you all. thank you so very very much. it is wonderful to be here with all of you, to be in new york
with my -- [ applause ] with my family with so many friends, including so many new yorkers who gave me the honor of serving them in the senate for eight years. to be right across the water from the headquarters of the united nations where i represented our country many times [ cheers and applause ] . to be here in this beautiful park dedicated to franklin roosevelt's enduring vision of america. the nation we want to be and in a place with absolutely no ceilings. [ applause ] you know president roosevelt's four freedoms are a testament to
our nation's unmatched aspirations and a reminder of our unfinished work at home and abroad. his legacy lifted up a nation and inspired presidents who followed. one is the man i served as secretary of state, barack obama. [ cheers and applause ] and another is my husband, bill clinton. [ cheers and applause ] two democrats guided by -- oh, that will make him so happy. [ laughter ] they were and are two democrats guided by the fundamental american belief that real and
lasting prosperity must be built by all and shared by all. [ cheers and applause ] president roosevelt called on every american to do his or her part and every american answered. he said there's no mystery about what it takes to build a strong and prosperous america -- equality of opportunity, jobs for those who can work security for those who need it the ending of special privilege for the few. [ cheers and applause ] the preservation of civil liberties for all. [ cheers and applause ] a wider and constantly rising standard of living. [ cheers and applause ]
that still sounds good to me. it's america's basic bargain. if you do your part you ought to be able to get ahead. and when everybody does their part, america gets ahead, too. that bargain inspired generations of families including my own. it's what kept my grandfather going to work in the same scranton lace mill everyday for 50 years. it's what led my father to believe that if he scrimped and saved his small business printing drapery fabric in chicago could provide us with a middle-class life. and it did. when president clinton honored the bargain we had the longest peace-time expansion in history,
a balanced budget -- [ cheers and applause ] -- and for the first time in decades we all grew together with the bottom 20% of workers increasing their incomes by the same percentage as the top 5%. [ cheers and applause ] when president obama honored the bargain, we pulled back from the brink of depression saved the auto industry provided by health care to 16 million working people -- [ cheers and applause ] and replaced the jobs we lost faster than the historical average after a financial crash. but it's not 1941 orb 1993, or
even twine2009. we face new challenges in our economy and our democracy. we're still working our way back from a crisis that happened because time-tested values were replaced by false promises. instead of an economy built by every american for every american, we were told that if we let those at the top pay lower taxes and bend the rules, their success would trickle down to everyone else. [ boos ] what happened? well instead of a balanced budget with surpluses that could have eventually paid off our national debt the republicans twice cut taxes for the wealthiest borrowed money from
other countries to pay for two wars and family incomes dropped. you know where we ended up. except it wasn't the end. as we have since our founding americans made a new beginning. you worked extra shifts took second jobs postponed home repairs. you figured out how to make it work. and now people are beginning to think about their future again. going to college, starting a business buying a house, finally being able to put away something for retirement. so we're standing again, but we all know we're not yet running the way america should. you see corporations making record profits with ceos making record pay, but your paychecks have barely budged. while many of you are working
multiple jobs to make ends meet you see the top 25 hedge fund managers making more than all of america's kindergarten teachers combined and often paying a lower tax rate. [ boos ] so you have to wonder -- when does my hard work pay off? when does my family get ahead? when? i say now. [ cheers and applause ] prosperity just can't be for ceos and hedge fund managers. democracy can't be just for billionaires and corporation ss. prosperity and democracy are part of your basic